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Toni
20-07-2005, 08:09 AM
Hallo Truff-Team!
I have got a Problem! Yesterday my damn brother was using a Aimbot! On your "Truff's Big 'n' Strange CTF Server"! I told him thatīs noobing but...heīs 13 years old :-/ I Hope that he hasnīt used my CLANname because thats make my name very bad!!! He said he used the name "Destroyer" and some other names...donīt know! Now is the IP banned and i like this Server very much!! Iīve spoken with him! He won't make it any more!! Please answer me. I hope you understand this a little bit...?

THX
Yours sincerely
Benny

TurboSi
20-07-2005, 08:12 AM
/me has to wonder how the aimbot got on the computer in the first place

Gladi
20-07-2005, 09:40 AM
/me wonders where that "it was my sister" image has gone...

Really - u need to think up a better excuse than "it was my brother" - blame the dog or monkey or something its more believable

Toni
20-07-2005, 10:31 AM
/me wonders where that "it was my sister" image has gone...

Really - u need to think up a better excuse than "it was my brother" - blame the dog or monkey or something its more believable

What do you want?? Are you a Admin? Then shut your moth! Thats great help!

BullDog
20-07-2005, 10:38 AM
What do you want?? Are you a Admin? Then shut your moth! Thats great help!

damn those noisy 'moths' around here.

so how did the aimbot get onto the pc in the first place?

you brother downloaded and set it up hmmz?

Erotic-Sludge
20-07-2005, 10:47 AM
Time to get rid of this brother and ask your parents for a new one this Christmas :thumbup:

EDIT: You're probably looking at Easter now!

Toni
20-07-2005, 11:10 AM
OK keep cool!! Listen all! Iīm in a CLAN at the moment! Do you believe that iīm using a bot if iīm still in a clan? And if you believe or not believe...i have reinstalled UT only to remove all bot files! I never used a bot...you can ask my Clan damn!! Thx ALL for GREAT Help...!

@BullDog
My brother said he got the bot from a friend about ICQ and he told him how to config...!

Dussander
20-07-2005, 11:39 AM
In PM:

Give me any online names your brothers used while cheating on our SLV server, give me your online name + clan tag + your CB account. Give me any clans your brother is in, does he idle in IRC?

BullDog
20-07-2005, 12:17 PM
In PM:

Give me any online names your brothers used while cheating on our SLV server, give me your online name + clan tag + your CB account. Give me any clans your brother is in, does he idle in IRC?

I wonder if we'll ever see 'toni' again - I certainly hope so and if you are reading this matey then do the UT community a favour and send Duss the info he asked for.

Toni
20-07-2005, 12:40 PM
@Dussander

I give you our clan web site and you are using this to break my neck. Do you think...only because you are an ADMIN you can do everything??? You destroy MY reputation!!!! What is that?? You are shit! I had NEVER problems with some admins or servers!! YOU make MY CLAN BAD!!! I will tell this my clanleader!

Achiel
20-07-2005, 01:09 PM
It was my brother who downloaded all of the 100gb of pr0n on my pc......http://bestsmileys.com/eek/7.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/misbehaving/10.gif

LG
20-07-2005, 01:19 PM
@Dussander

I give you our clan web site and you are using this to break my neck. Do you think...only because you are an ADMIN you can do everything??? You destroy MY reputation!!!! What is that?? You are shit! I had NEVER problems with some admins or servers!! YOU make MY CLAN BAD!!! I will tell this my clanleader!

That's bullshit Toni .You screwed yourself by allowing your brother to load a bot onto your computer .As for anyone destroying your reputation ,you can blame that on your brother also. An yes seeing as Dussander is an Admin they do have pretty much total controll over players that try to Cheat here . Cheating will not be but up with here in any way shape or fourm . All cheaters caught here are posted in a cheat data base that is accessed by many other gameing sights .An i'm sure your clanleader will be happy to hear that you got caught with a bot on your machine .So don't go Moaning about people that had nothing to do with your problem .The problem was caused at your end the moment the bot got loaded on your computer .We get all sorts of complaints from players that get caught .The funny thing is none of them ever loaded the bot themself .The Bot has always managed to download itself an load its self .Or the bot has always been but on by their brother ,sister,dog ,cat or aliens :) .So take it for what it is chief you got messed up so now you need to deal with it .Man real life sucks don't it .

BullDog
20-07-2005, 02:28 PM
I will tell this my clanleader!
and hopefully that will end you in his clan - if he is a decent leader.

we and your clan leader will never know for sure if you actually got the bot in the first place, how long it was used for and how many clanwars were cheated in.

no 'Toni' - I don't think you will tell your leader at all.

Very nice of you to mention the server where it happened and the possible nick that was used - with all that info tied to an ip I would guess your Truff days are over.

Giving info voluntarily might have led to some people believing you - but insulting Duss - who is a very respected Admin here and is also on the clanbase anti cheat crew - will get you into a very deep hole.

BGM
20-07-2005, 02:46 PM
but insulting Duss - who is a very respected Admin here and is also on the clanbase anti cheat crew - will get you into a very deep hole.

Yes. Dussander is great as spotting the difference between cheaters from the good players. LMFAO :lol: Can't believe he is on clanbase anti cheat team. You're all screwed i tell you.

You can never use the excuse it was someone else to get you unbanned. Even if it was somebody else you take full responsibility for letting them use your computer and playing UT on it.

The game is mature rated anyway so he shouldn't be playing at 13 :wink:

Dussander
20-07-2005, 03:17 PM
I give you our clan web site and you are using this to break my neck. You destroy MY reputation!!!! What is that?? You are shit! I had NEVER problems with some admins or servers!! YOU make MY CLAN BAD!!! I will tell this my clanleader!

You just saved me about 2 minutes work, since I could just search CB myself and get your clan ID and clansite.

Do you think...only because you are an ADMIN you can do everything???

It's my job to hunt cheaters out. I don't do it for glory, or because I am a Truff mod. I was helping the Truff community out with it's anticheat before I became a member.

You destroy MY reputation!!!! What is that?? You are shit! I had NEVER problems with some admins or servers!! YOU make MY CLAN BAD!!!

No, your 'brother' destroyed your reputation. You cannot prove that you have a brother or even if you do, you cannot prove he was using the bot - ruining dozens of players' games.

I will tell this my clanleader!

Doesn't matter, I will get CB to remove your account whether you tell your CL or not - a permanent ban from playing on CB. If the CL readds you & you play then his clan gets removed and he gets a 3-month ban.

Since you weren't paying attention:

Moadebe] If a player is caught cheating, then everyonme on that same connection will be banned as per our policy

`wtf
20-07-2005, 03:42 PM
Toni, from what I understand you seem like another one of those players who just ruin UT for everyone else - kinda like the scc. Please, do us all a favour and find another server to cheat on. :wink:

hein_bloed
20-07-2005, 09:03 PM
Just my 2cents for this:

@Toni:
1)
I can understand that you're angry because you think "it was not your fault",
but you ARE responsible for your computer and your UT-installation.
You cant let anyone play and change your UT environment without control.
(see BGM's post)

Thats something like doping/cheating in sports - you ARE responsible if you eat or drink something that it contained forbidden things, even if you didnt know it - because you *could* have used it for cheating.

2)
Your way to blame users/members and admins here isn't very helpful -
I would have expected that you are polite, you apologize for this and you accept a ban without moan, if the admins decide so.
Usually you *can* have a second chance - maybe not immediately - if you behave :)

Look at the whingers forum - most ppl who were caught cheating pretend, their brother/sister/anyone-else was it - therefor you have to prove thats true, what you said.



ehhmm --- completely out of topic ---- @BGM:

I nearly fell off my chair when I saw your new forum-role "Forum Troll" :rofl:
Nice one, mate!

nevertheles - IMHO your posts usually worth reading :wink:

auriel
20-07-2005, 09:52 PM
in Assault we use an auth-system to prevent "MERC" (its a gameserver IP Database + IP of the Forum account which is a requirement to play in the Leauge..... and if we catch one its allways the little brother which played accidentally on the PC..


very funny.. dingy ...........boring...

Toni
20-07-2005, 10:09 PM
"hein_bloed"]Just my 2cents for this:

@Toni:
1)
I can understand that you're angry because you think "it was not your fault",
but you ARE responsible for your computer and your UT-installation.
You cant let anyone play and change your UT environment without control.
(see BGM's post)

Thats something like doping/cheating in sports - you ARE responsible if you eat or drink something that it contained forbidden things, even if you didnt know it - because you *could* have used it for cheating.


Listen m8. I understand this sure. I understand also that itīs not very credible! But i can only say the truth and my truth ok! If you believe all that...is an other story i know! And some posts from these gays here arnīt fair because they donīt know me and they donīt know if i have a brother or not! So they havnīt to talk with me like that!!! In my opinion is that a impudence! I don't let me treated as shit! All here do that!


2)
Your way to blame users/members and admins here isn't very helpful -
I would have expected that you are polite, you apologize for this and you accept a ban without moan, if the admins decide so.
Usually you *can* have a second chance - maybe not immediately - if you behave :)

Look at the whingers forum - most ppl who were caught cheating pretend, their brother/sister/anyone-else was it - therefor you have to prove thats true, what you said.


First I blamed dussander because I gave him my clansite and the clanbasesite from our clan (i trusted him! And wanted his understanding)) AND THAN he used this to kick me out of there. He told a admin from CB that iīm a cheater! ! He tried that....because my clanleader has spoken with the Admin from clanbase and itīs regulated! I will not kicked!!


I come to end. And first i really tried all! sended an e-mail....registered in this forum to write here...chatted in the IRC...and dussander kicked me out of there without a reason and banned me there too! U understand a lil bit...?

Greez
Toni

Dussander
20-07-2005, 11:06 PM
First I blamed dussander because I gave him my clansite and the clanbasesite from our clan (i trusted him! And wanted his understanding)) AND THAN he used this to kick me out of there. He told a admin from CB that iīm a cheater! ! He tried that....because my clanleader has spoken with the Admin from clanbase and itīs regulated! I will not kicked!!


I come to end. And first i really tried all! sended an e-mail....registered in this forum to write here...chatted in the IRC...and dussander kicked me out of there without a reason and banned me there too! U understand a lil bit...?

Greez
Toni

You giving your clan ID / me finding it, doesn't matter.

Yes CB anticheat is regulated... and? Who I was speaking to is co-head of CB cheat and abuse. End of. Anyone can cheat, get subnet banned, come on here and say "my 13 yr old brother cheated, please remove the ban". We aren't buying it.

I cannot kick or ban from #truff IRC, Truff banned you, for you attitude which shines here too.

kevmech
21-07-2005, 07:36 AM
RIGHT kevins turn at this!!!!

1. having an aimbot doesnt mean you can't get in a clan, you could just turn it off you know, so all your gayness about ''im in a CLAN'' isnt a good defense on your behalf

2.blaming your brother isn't very helpful to the admins, but the way your being nasty to dussander (an admin) doesnt really show you want your ban lifted...

3. once again HOW DID AN AIMBOT GET ON UR COMP and how the HELL did a 13 year old set it up??? 8O


( BTW you shouldnt be nasty to those who critisise you on this forum , admins are very well loved here and so is everyone on these forums , basically ur the one who isn't rlly welcome if u botted and banned , just so you know)


EDIT: i think for your attitude you should be banned to be honest , if your this nasty to an ADMIN here , imagine wat would happen if someone OWNED you...

Pileyrei
21-07-2005, 08:03 AM
.....for you attitude which shines here too.

Kinda sums this thread up IMO.

Pileyrei

Toni
21-07-2005, 08:50 AM
RIGHT kevins turn at this!!!!

1. so all your gayness about ''im in a CLAN'' isnt a good defense on your behalf

2.blaming your brother isn't very helpful to the admins

3. once again HOW DID AN AIMBOT GET ON UR COMP and how the HELL did a 13 year old set it up??? 8O.

1. Okay that was no good idea...but i wanted only say the truth...because I thought that it helps maybe!

2. I donīt blaming my brother ONLY...but my brother will has PC forbade now for a long time!!

3. Welcome in the FUTURE. My brother said he got the aimbot from a friend about ICQ! Maybe you donīt believe this...but itīs all possible today! Or would you say itīs impossible?? the little children are very clever on the PC!


but the way your being nasty to dussander (an admin) doesnt really show you want your ban lifted...

EDIT: i think for your attitude you should be banned to be honest , if your this nasty to an ADMIN here , imagine wat would happen if someone OWNED you..


You donīt know what i talked with dussander in the chat...SO you can say nothing to it! And the others too!

Anyone can cheat, get subnet banned, come on here and say "my 13 yr old brother cheated, please remove the ban". We aren't buying it.

I didnīt say this like that! So you don't twist the facts! I wanted your understanding nothing else. I tried it...very friendly...and you all treated me as shit! I ask you...is that fair? And then you are wondering why i will agressiv...pff


I cannot kick or ban from #truff IRC, Truff banned you, for you attitude which shines here too.

Okay, you werenīt it...iīm sorry about this! And, sorry that on your server were cheated from MY computer. You are right...that is my owe that I let my brother play UT! I donīt like cheater too okay and i understand your acting. But it would be also rubbish while iīm active in a clan... to cheat! I know this hasnīt any meaning....but i can only give you my word that this happens no more from MY computer! I said all what i can...everything is in your hands now what you do with that! When you will do it ever.

Sorry about my english...isnīt so good! Isnīt easy for me to write all this...

thank you for listening
yours sincerely
Toni

BrownCow
21-07-2005, 05:24 PM
Thats what i call an appeal hearing.

Style.

Dussander
21-07-2005, 08:35 PM
http://www.truff.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2467
http://www.anticheat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=1056
http://www.ut.anticheat.clanbase.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=345

Enjoy

Toni
21-07-2005, 08:49 PM
Thank you dussander...you are Great!!!! You donīt know what you did!

Shado
21-07-2005, 10:28 PM
The "my little brother did it" excuse is as old as aimbots themselves. That excuse will never be taken seriously by any UT admin. Maybe you should think about what privileges your little brother gets on your pc. Also password protect all other accounts.

~Shad

psy
22-07-2005, 08:38 AM
You are looking at this the wrong way, Toni.

Dussander is doing his job. Catching cheaters, and getting them
kicked out of every place possibly, including CB.

The person to blame is your brother. He is the one who did all
this to you.

I think you should show your brother what he has done to you.
Perhaps he will think twice before putting cheats on a computer
again.


PSY

willowgarden
22-07-2005, 09:00 AM
Toni - you may be guilty you may be innocent - we will never know and unfortunately no-one you ever play again will ever be sure.
The problem is that whilst some people do have kids brothers and sisters who are quite capable of doing what you described (mine would have been quite likely to have done something similar when she was younger too!) but so often cheaters pretend that it was a kid brother that noone believs it any more.

Personally I tend to suspect that you're telling the truth here, which is why I'm bothering to post. Your brother has ruined your UT standing totally - 100%. There is no going back after this. You will have to try and get a new ip, assume a new nick, and start all over again. Leave it a few weeks, then start playing on new servers, and wait till you can join a new clan etc.

And make sure no cheats can ever get put on your computer again - Psy is right - show your brother exactly what grief he has caused you (if you haven't killed the little brat that is).

good luck
willow

Toni
22-07-2005, 09:11 AM
Dussander CALLS MY NAME on the anticheat sides!!! He calls MY EMAIl ADRESS there!!!! He says it was ME....although HE DOESNīT KNOW it!!!! NEVER...NEVER say the TRUTH!!!! It will destroy you!!!! I will remember this FOREVER!!

ramJET
22-07-2005, 10:19 AM
lol my little pony did it.

Pileyrei
22-07-2005, 10:25 AM
Dussander CALLS MY NAME on the anticheat sides!!! He calls MY EMAIl ADRESS there!!!! He says it was ME....although HE DOESNīT KNOW it!!!! NEVER...NEVER say the TRUTH!!!! It will destroy you!!!! I will remember this FOREVER!!

Great post>>thats not really going to help you much :?

How about reading Willow's post? A polite thank you would be good.

Pileyrei

Toni
22-07-2005, 11:19 AM
Okay, you werenīt it...iīm sorry about this! And, sorry that on your server were cheated from MY computer. You are right...that is my owe that I let my brother play UT! I donīt like cheater too okay and i understand your acting. But it would be also rubbish while iīm active in a clan... to cheat! I know this hasnīt any meaning....but i can only give you my word that this happens no more from MY computer! I said all what i can...everything is in your hands now what you do with that! When you will do it ever.

Sorry about my english...isnīt so good! Isnīt easy for me to write all this...

thank you for listening
yours sincerely
Toni

CAN YOU READ??? I SAID sorry!!!!! And thats dussanders answer...! I FUCK OF UT AND I FUCK OF DUSSANDER. THIS LITTLE BASTARD!

Pileyrei
22-07-2005, 12:55 PM
Okay, you werenīt it...iīm sorry about this! And, sorry that on your server were cheated from MY computer. You are right...that is my owe that I let my brother play UT! I donīt like cheater too okay and i understand your acting. But it would be also rubbish while iīm active in a clan... to cheat! I know this hasnīt any meaning....but i can only give you my word that this happens no more from MY computer! I said all what i can...everything is in your hands now what you do with that! When you will do it ever.

Sorry about my english...isnīt so good! Isnīt easy for me to write all this...

thank you for listening
yours sincerely
Toni

CAN YOU READ??? I SAID sorry!!!!! And thats dussanders answer...! I FUCK OF UT AND I FUCK OF DUSSANDER. THIS LITTLE BASTARD!

:lol:
You'll defintely get your ban lifted now!

Toni
22-07-2005, 01:02 PM
I FUCK OF if they lifted or not! This is not important!!

shred_dog
22-07-2005, 01:09 PM
uh oh. sounds like somebody needs a hug. mebbie my little brother can give him one.

Achiel
22-07-2005, 01:26 PM
He's gonna leave us, what a shame http://youponder.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sausage2/jerry.gif

Toni
22-07-2005, 01:32 PM
Yes i will leave this fucking board!!! Like he...

http://www.paintingdepot.com/images/paintings/scarface.jpg

sikamikanico
22-07-2005, 01:51 PM
Yes i will leave this fucking board!!! Like he...

boy...
seems like you are the 13 years old

for the future(on other boards), be nice, learn how to behave in a public community, accept that there are people out there who have more to say than you... (thats also a good tip for your working life)

good bye

Achiel
22-07-2005, 02:06 PM
Do you feel lucky, punk?
http://www.filmski.net/slike/slike/news/jutarnjimiris01.done.jpg

Toni
22-07-2005, 02:11 PM
Yes i will leave this fucking board!!! Like he...

boy...
seems like you are the 13 years old

for the future(on other boards), be nice, learn how to behave in a public community, accept that there are people out there who have more to say than you... (thats also a good tip for your working life)

good bye

If iīm very furious iīm like a child YES!!!!

Stevieboy
22-07-2005, 02:53 PM
Somebody please lock this topic, I think Dussander explained everything, and it is has resorted to abuse from Toni which is not helpful